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				Blue smoke???
				Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:00 pm
				by goonerruss
				Hi all, got myself a 1992 FZR400RR, have noticed some blue smoke from the exhaust on start up and occaisionally while riding? when i open up the throttle the smoke clears, when i shut the throttle off & open up again some blue smoke appears?? have been told it's more than likely valve stem oil seals, has anyone experienced this before? if so how easy was it to repair? with the lack of a workshop manual to work from i'd be kinda working blind!!
                                            Any help or advice would be great, thanks
			 
			
					
				Re: Blue smoke???
				Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:09 pm
				by oollit
				That does sound like the valve stem oil seals have gone.
I haven't replaced them before but i am going to be overhauling my 3TJ engine shortly and i will be stripping the head so if you still need advice in a couple of weeks time i might be able to help.
			 
			
					
				Re: Blue smoke???
				Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:13 pm
				by goonerruss
				ok thanks, give me a shout when you've done the overhaul.
			 
			
					
				Re: Blue smoke???
				Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:48 pm
				by Evilchicken0
				Get it compression tested.
You can do a "dry" test and if it's low or leaks down you follow it with a "wet" test. This is some oil down the barrels, if this holds it's compression it's the rings (as the oil seals the cylinder better) if it still loses its the valves not sealing.
Alothough you can do the oil seals with the head on the engine it will be easier if it's off. Consider honing the bores too.
			 
			
					
				Re: Blue smoke???
				Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:24 pm
				by Rover220
				Evilchicken0 wrote:Get it compression tested.
You can do a "dry" test and if it's low or leaks down you follow it with a "wet" test. This is some oil down the barrels, if this holds it's compression it's the rings (as the oil seals the cylinder better) if it still loses its the valves not sealing.
Alothough you can do the oil seals with the head on the engine it will be easier if it's off. Consider honing the bores too.
valve stem seals, not rings so dont worry yourself that it needs serious work.
 
			
					
				Re: Blue smoke???
				Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:42 am
				by Evilchicken0
				valve stem seals, not rings so dont worry yourself that it needs serious work
 Don't you need to take the cams of and the collets that stop the valves dropping and the valve springs ... so don't you need to take head off in case you drop the valve and so you can get the spring compressor on .... ????
So given that you might as well compression test it and if there's any leak down now is the time to sort it out.
 
			
					
				Re: Blue smoke???
				Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:24 pm
				by dobbslc
				You can get a gadget that blows air down the plug hole that keeps the valves in place while you work on the stem seals.  :)