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NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:37 pm
by Neosophist
to revive a post by amorti..
by amorti » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:51 pm
CMSMJ1 wrote:you can also use NC23 and NC29 wheels too...
And CBR600 1995-8 (ish) and VFR750 1995-8 (ish) and if you wanted 16" tyres (you don't but it might come up cheap to get you back on the road) CBR900 1995-7 will go on, too. That'd look good though I reckon, 18" rear and 16" front.
Some people know that the NC24 uses a 16/18 inch combo.
I have a few chips and scuffs in my front wheel on the 30 and reading this made me think of this.
130/70/16 16" front... hmm. NC24 style but wider with modern rubber.
Anyone tried it on an 30? I can pick up a wheel really cheap so don't mind giving it a punt if nobody has tried it before.
Had a few too many beers to work out difference in ride height and other effects
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:52 pm
by CMSMJ1
bought a bike with a blade wheel in once. it looked shit. Never rode it as the motor was fecked and Geoff broke it.
I remember the spacers weren't right..so not convinced it is a straight fit.
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:09 pm
by royster81
Put the beers down and work it out please. But I think I remember hearing with the extra sidewall height they have nearly the same rolling radius
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:23 pm
by amorti
Neosophist wrote:to revive a post by amorti..
by amorti » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:51 pm
CMSMJ1 wrote:you can also use NC23 and NC29 wheels too...
And CBR600 1995-8 (ish) and VFR750 1995-8 (ish) and if you wanted 16" tyres (you don't but it might come up cheap to get you back on the road) CBR900 1995-7 will go on, too. That'd look good though I reckon, 18" rear and 16" front.
Some people know that the NC24 uses a 16/18 inch combo.
I have a few chips and scuffs in my front wheel on the 30 and reading this made me think of this.
130/70/16 16" front... hmm. NC24 style but wider with modern rubber.
Anyone tried it on an 30? I can pick up a wheel really cheap so don't mind giving it a punt if nobody has tried it before.
Had a few too many beers to work out difference in ride height and other effects
Still got no idea about the net handling effects, but reckon it'd look cool. The 16" tyre tends to look a bit balloon-like compared to the 120/60 usually used on the 400's, but I always find they look a bit too thin, myself.
They are wider, marginally. You would imagine this would mean that there is more grip available. Also that the front and rear tyres are then more similar, so the bike ought to be more flickable? Honestly though these are all guesses. I can't say I noticed a lot of difference after changing to 17" front on my Fireblade, except that tyres became a bit cheaper and much easier to find what you wanted to fit. I imagine the wheel will be lighter, but the tyre heavier, so it'll probably be a negligible weight difference. I never did weigh the wheels, sorry.
CMSMJ1 wrote:bought a bike with a blade wheel in once. it looked shit. Never rode it as the motor was fecked and Geoff broke it.
I remember the spacers weren't right..so not convinced it is a straight fit.
The wheels are a perfect fit. I know this for a fact because I have put an nc29/30 wheel in the front of a 1997 Fireblade. However you are dead right about the spacers. Because the Fireblade has 45mm forks, the yokes are wider and so the spacers on each side of the wheel are a little longer. You get around this by simply re-using your nc30 wheel spacers, which will fit perfectly.
royster81 wrote:Put the beers down and work it out please. But I think I remember hearing with the extra sidewall height they have nearly the same rolling radius
No need to guess. Bridgestone (for one) are quite open with the specs of their tyres:
http://www.bridgestone.com/products/mot ... /bt56.html
130/70ZR16M/C - Diameter 593mm
120/60ZR17M/C - Diameter 582mm
120/70ZR17M/C - Diameter 603mm
So you see the the 130/70 is half-way between the heights of 120/60 and 120/70. You will need to ensure there is 5mm minimum clearance to the mudguard and to the radiators at full bounce. On the Fireblade you can quite conveniently flip the mudguard brackets around to allow an extra 5mm clearance if you want a 120/70-17.
All in all, if you can find one cheaply with a usable tyre on it, why not give it a go? It is a 1:1 fit, and you might even like it.
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:31 pm
by Dgeoff33
I have a 16" front in one of my breakers!!
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:32 pm
by Neosophist
Bidding on a 16" front with new tyre.
Decided to give it a go if it's cheap enough.
I like the 16 / 18 combo on the NC24 so like the idea of this.
Saw and NC35 today.. never really noticed before but the 17" rear looks so small compared to the NC30! :O
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:42 pm
by Hadies
Neosophist wrote:Saw and NC35 today.. never really noticed before but the 17" rear looks so small compared to the NC30! :O
Too right! Not looking forward to the day I have to swap to a 17 incher.
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:23 pm
by amorti
Neosophist wrote:Bidding on a 16" front with new tyre.
Decided to give it a go if it's cheap enough.
I like the 16 / 18 combo on the NC24 so like the idea of this.
Saw and NC35 today.. never really noticed before but the 17" rear looks so small compared to the NC30! :O
Just a note - be sure it's from the right year of Blade. Earliest (92-94?) blades had cable-driven speedos. Not sure if you can easily blank the drive. Latest (98-99) blades have different disc mounting patterns and won't fit without far more effort than it's worth.
It's a shame, I practically gave away a set of Fireblade wheels recently.
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:49 pm
by Neosophist
amorti wrote:Neosophist wrote:Bidding on a 16" front with new tyre.
Decided to give it a go if it's cheap enough.
I like the 16 / 18 combo on the NC24 so like the idea of this.
Saw and NC35 today.. never really noticed before but the 17" rear looks so small compared to the NC30! :O
Just a note - be sure it's from the right year of Blade. Earliest (92-94?) blades had cable-driven speedos. Not sure if you can easily blank the drive. Latest (98-99) blades have different disc mounting patterns and won't fit without far more effort than it's worth.
It's a shame, I practically gave away a set of Fireblade wheels recently.
I think you'd find it a bit pricey to ship them over to Japan though.
And yep it's an early cable-speedo type. You can blank the drive off though as I think it was the later wheel you could pop the dust-seal out of and fit the speedo drive into, or something like that... can't remember off hand!
Re: NC30 16" front wheel.. anyone tried?
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:50 pm
by amorti
Sorry I hadn't realise you were our JP connection, or to be honest that we even had one.