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Intermittent Spark

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:15 pm
by ogman
Hi all, I am still struggling getting my gk76 to go. sometimes when I press the starter I get a spark at the plugs and other times not. When I have a plug out of the bike and earthed down, I notice that I have to press the starter repeatedly to get a spark going. Then it either stays sparking or just dies after a couple of seconds.
Does any one have any thoughts please.

Ta..... Ian

Re: Intermittent Spark

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:58 pm
by Andy
Hey,
Check all connections and make sure they are clean/good etc,if it persists and the plugs are proven beg/borrow another set of coils of another bike(one will do) and try that,i`m running R1 coils on mine at the moment and there fine....
Had some really weird results with dodgy coil`s in the past, i keep a proven coil on the shelf now and it`s one of the first thing`s i test apart from the obvious. Hope that help`s mate....

Andy :grin:

Re: Intermittent Spark

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:01 pm
by Andy
I`ve also had a similar problem with a corroded kill swith on one of 73`s which gave similar symptom`s,just a thought.....

Andy :grin:

Re: Intermittent Spark

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:43 pm
by ogman
OK, thank you for giving your time to respond. I will try and scrounge some coils to try.

hanks.... Ian

Re: Intermittent Spark

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:28 pm
by Variablevalves suck
Is the bad spark on all plugs? as if you only check plug 1 or 4 they fire from the same coil so its worth trying 2 and 3 also as its unlikley both coils will go at once.

Re: Intermittent Spark

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:14 pm
by dobbslc
I've got the same problem on mine, intermittent spark then no spark then a spark 5 seconds after I've stopped cranking???
I was poking around behind the clocks & right under the inside of the headstock to check the connections & then disconnected one coil and tried it and got a good spark!
I reconnected the other coil and got 4 good sparks, Not sure what I disturbed but will go through all the wiring again. The coil live feeds seem to go up to the clocks somwhere.
I did find a diode by the left rear seat sub frame that is somthing to do with the stand & neutral switch cut outs that was corroded so cleaned this, it's about 15mm x 10mm in size with 3 pins and very tight to the sub frame. Make sure it goes back in the right way or you will have made another problem for yourself!
I will keep a record of what I've done and post it here if I find the real fault as there seems to be loads of ignition faults on these bikes causing people trouble. I hope the CDI is ok :o

Re: Intermittent Spark

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:42 pm
by ogman
That sounds like exactly the same as my problems.
I will check out that connector block and keep my fingers crossed.

Ta very much.

Re: Intermittent Spark

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:27 am
by dobbslc
OK went back to it and cleaned everything I could find only to find I've got no spark again :x :x :x :x :x :x
I'm going to use an oscilloscope to try and find where the signal is getting lost as I'm not sure if the cdi is getting sent a signal or weather it's not sending a pulse to the coils.
Do these bikes have a clutch switch? as there is a mount for one but I can't find any wiring.
edit:
OK I went over the connections again and now seem to have a good spark, The scope showed that the ecu is getting a signal and it's sending a signal to the coils.
we gave the wiring a good pull about while on the scope with no missing pulses so I hope that part is fixed now :pray:
Rebuilt the carbs with some new O rings then put it all back together, filled with oil and water and got it started

OH F**k

It ran ok but smoked like a "son bitch".
Looks like the head gasket has gone with oil pissing out the front of the barrels & some mayo in the oil when drained out.
I took it apart and it looks quite clean inside so I will just replace the gaskets & valve oil seals & possibly skim the head with maybe a clean up of the ports etc while I'm in there.
Project "reject" TBC