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has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:07 am
by nc30 madness
hey hey
has anyone ever heard of putting an nc24 engine in an nc30 frame with nc30 carbs
i heard guys that race on track do this because the nc24 has a shorter 1st gear
does the nc24 engine have better performance over the nc30 engine?
would like to read your guys comments
Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:14 am
by Cammo
Not heard that before, and I don't think that the 24 engine goes easily into the 30 frame.
You don't want a lower gearbox for racing, you want a closer ratio gearbox (nc30).
Usual racer combo is a 35 engine with a 30 gearbox. Carbs are up the individual, 30 carbs will make higher top end hp, 35 carbs are much easier to setup and will be near identical in club racing.
Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:13 am
by CMSMJ1
No - you'll be thinking NC35 engine which is pretty much the same animal and is an easy fit.
The NC24 is a 400cc V4 but has a 180 degree crank for starters
Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:05 pm
by Neosophist
CMSMJ1 wrote:No - you'll be thinking NC35 engine which is pretty much the same animal and is an easy fit.
The NC24 is a 400cc V4 but has a 180 degree crank for starters
It's still an NC13 Engine though so I doubt the mounting points are that different
I'd prefer the 30 frame over the 24's though given the choice.
The NC35 has a different mounting points as the frame was changed to alter balance.
If anyones got a picture of an NC30 engine i'll measure the mounting points on an NC24 engine as they 'look' like there in the same place as the 30 engine

Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:16 pm
by fastdruid
The difference fwiw between the 180 and 360 crank is the 180 is smoother, the 360 or 'big bang' gives very slightly more power[1] but more to the point it gives the tyre more time to recover in between power pulses.
Druid
[1] As in 2hp out of the 750...
Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:21 pm
by fastdruid
Neosophist wrote:If anyones got a picture of an NC30 engine i'll measure the mounting points on an NC24 engine as they 'look' like there in the same place as the 30 engine

Well there is this one

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Druid
Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:20 am
by CRM
lol, looks v familair. someone's nicked the bike from around it
Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:34 pm
by Neosophist
Apart from the mounting hole by cylinder 3 there isn't much difference. Shouldn't be too hard to fit the engine in :)
The 180 firing order also seems to run cooler (only 1 rad needed) both bikes produced 60bhp too so *shrug* :)
Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:36 pm
by Cammo
The nc24 rear exhaust headers might not fit into the 30 frame very easily, hard to tell.
Re: has anyone ever heard of or done this
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:31 pm
by Neosophist
Stickshift wrote:The nc24 rear exhaust headers might not fit into the 30 frame very easily, hard to tell.
If your putting it in a 30 frame use the 30 exhaust
