mo haggs wrote:

xivlia wrote:well my old CDI broke down while it was working.... explain that to me. it was working....and then it stopped.. i replaced it with a spare one i had. it worked.. and now i have the problem of bike cutting out at high temps. NEVER had that problem with my old CDI before it broke down. so its just a simple assumption, and im assuming its my current CDI. hence why i bought another one....

ever think that the damaged cdi is the symptom of other problems rather than the cause?

2 faulty cdi's is quite unlikley.

You use the word hence too much, I think you would make an excellent conspiracy theorist, you put two unrelatable things together and come up with a solid link in your own head while not listening to anythign anyone else has said.

You can say that you listen to people until you a blue in the face but you really dont listen to anything.

Here is a refresher, I will paraphrase this as you wont listen to this either so I can't be arsed digging up the exact posts.

You: "the bike wouldnt work, I changed the CDI and now it runs perfect, the brake light became fixed also"

Me and other people: "it sounds most likely you have bad connection, the CDI doesnt control the brake lights, you have probably distrubed a bad wire(s) while messign with the CDI"

I also asked you to try the old CDI on somebody elses bike to confirm it was actually dead, otherwise you dont have a clue if it really was dead or what caused it.

So we have now established that at least 2 people on this forum including myself told you at the time that you changing the CDI would not fix the problems you said it did and that you most likely had bad connetion / electrical issue and I even asked you to confirm the old CDI was dead. CDI failure is very rare and I pointed out that it would usually kill other things first / too.

Anyway, you ignored that and now the bike isn't working again, probably due to the original fault re-appearing you buy another CDI becuase you think that that is the problem, even though you were told last time that it probably wasn't the CDI.

You wonder why people are angry, but you constantly complain the bike is terrible, often quite angrily, don't follow any advice properly and ask the stupidiest things.

Can you really not see what many peopel on here might not want to give you free stuff? It takes time to write this crap up and more often than not it feels like pissing into the wind.

What it seems like is that people on here who have had many of these bikes, know them very well tell you the most likely cause, what to check or look at, you don't do that instead do something else, temporarily bodge the problem and wonder why it comes back.

I really don't know what to say, I think your a danger to yourself and to mechanical things. It's worrying I have to type the same thing many times, but you don't know what your doing, you have no reason or logic skills, your like a 9/11 was done by angry aliens red-neck nut job.

You most likely have dodgy wiring somewhere, this is either affecting the spark intermittently or maybe even killing the CDI, ive NEVER seen a CDI die on any bike by natural causes, only a severe electrical problem that more often than not takes out fuses / melts wires etc.

You need to test you ignition boxes on another bike that works properly, post them to somebody. Just to confirm they work / don't work.

If by some mircale you have killed them both then find out why they are dying, there is obviosuly something major wrong.

It is more likely they are ok, bad electrical connection(s) and possibly bad coils.

If the spark is going away under heat and you have ruled out electrical problems by testing the elctrical system AT the time of the problem to rule out heat AND you don't have any bad conncetions then it is likely coils as CRM has already said, breaking down under heat and load, and if not igntiion coils ,certainly pick-up coils, which you have already had problems with.

I'd be checking your bike with a finetooth comb that, brake lights and things dont just magically start working with a CDI swap, only shitty conections cause that...

Shitty connections will give a bad spark, no spark, intermittent spark, as will faulty coils or pickup, also poor battery.

They are all overlapping cuases that can potentially cuase problems, but some propery investigation will have it fixed in no time.

Ersan, one thing you seriously need to bear in mind is that if you keep running the bike stationary and it keeps overheating, YOU WILL eventually blow your head gasket.

thunderace wrote:Ersan, one thing you seriously need to bear in mind is that if you keep running the bike stationary and it keeps overheating, YOU WILL eventually blow your head gasket.

reading this latest saga has blown mine.

okay, i will test out the entire electrical system again, to find shitty/loose/bad/melted connections. i will also send two of my CDI's to someone on here so that they can test it out. (is anyone willing to try out my CDI's?)

just a quick questions..... valve clearances. does that affect starting up issues? i have not done any valve clearances at all...i atempted it once when i first got the bike, but it was like a maze in there so i didnt touch anything.

xivlia wrote:just a quick questions..... valve clearances. does that affect starting up issues? i have not done any valve clearances at all...i atempted it once when i first got the bike, but it was like a maze in there so i didnt touch anything.

In short, no, it won't affect start-up.

xivlia wrote:just a quick questions..... valve clearances. does that affect starting up issues? i have not done any valve clearances at all...i atempted it once when i first got the bike, but it was like a maze in there so i didnt touch anything.

Chances are the valve clearances are fine so dont worry about them, they wont affect start up anyway in your case.

Concentrate on the electrical issues which have been set out in a lot of detail now and you will be sorted in no time but do concentrate on one issue at a time. You seem to float from one issue to another without fixing any of them, I am not getting on at you - trying to help but like many its frustrating to hear the same thing over and over - concentrate on one thing, when that is fixed you will be more confident on the next issue - it will give you a boost that there will be an end to the problems.

Dont worry about stripping engines or anything. You just dont need the headache.

xivlia wrote:just a quick questions..... valve clearances. does that affect starting up issues? i have not done any valve clearances at all...i atempted it once when i first got the bike, but it was like a maze in there so i didnt touch anything.

Less thinking..

Start with the electrics first.

I'm sure somebody on here will test out your igntion boxes, Ricky?

Changing the igntion module should't affect the brake light, so it is most likely that you disturbed a wire.

Get yourself some contact cleaner like this. at least one can, why not 2 for the price.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COMMA-ELECTRI ... 27c90646b3

Take apart every plug, spray it in and leave it directed, inspect each plug for bent terminals, burnt or melted wires. Do the same with the plugs for the coils etc.

There is NO rush, take your time.

There are a couple of earhts on the bike too, the main battery earth, one down the left front by the rad too, unbolt them and wire brush them up to make sure they are clean.

Make sure you reassmeble all plugs properly so they are fully clipped together.

can you also get us a picture of where the electrics are in the rear end?

There will be some loose wiring about.... if it looks like a dog's brekkie then it might be worth getting it tidied up when you are checking everything anyways.

the electrics on the rear are all floating about, i had ductaped them to the undertray before, but right now they are all floating about.