joshmolloy wrote:As good as a pro setup?

It aint no Ohlins, but it's good enough for the majority of racers (and a heap of roadies) on here - works wonders on tired forks and great value.

If it doesn't change the bike to suit your weight, what does it change?

I am also 11 stone though, so that's helpful, cheers.

Sorry maybe i wasnt clear, the spring supplied are heavier than standard, standard springs are also progresive rate (well they were on my old 35). ricks springs are straight rate.

If your 11 stone you should find it spot on, I fitted ricks kit after a bad experience with a suspension place that apprantly rebuilt and uprated the forks to suit me on another 35 i had. They were shite compared to ricks kit no matter how much i adjusted them.

Drunkn Munky wrote:Sorry maybe i wasnt clear, the spring supplied are heavier than standard, standard springs are also progresive rate (well they were on my old 35). ricks springs are straight rate.

If your 11 stone you should find it spot on, I fitted ricks kit after a bad experience with a suspension place that apprantly rebuilt and uprated the forks to suit me on another 35 i had. They were shite compared to ricks kit no matter how much i adjusted them.

Excellent, looks like he'll be getting an email shortly, although I did like the sound of sending them to someone who could set them up for my weight, the roads I ride etc.

Any suggestions for the other end?

mattUKSP1 wrote:If you don't mind getting your hand dirty, I'd say do the forks yourself, I really enjoyed doing the ones on my 30.
RickOliver on here does a kit which includes (well it did when I did mine) a syringe so you don't overfill the oil! A great little kit. Around £85 too!

easy enough job and a great improvement. I am @13 stone and Ricks spring/oil kits are spot on

joshmolloy wrote:

Drunkn Munky wrote:Sorry maybe i wasnt clear, the spring supplied are heavier than standard, standard springs are also progresive rate (well they were on my old 35). ricks springs are straight rate.

If your 11 stone you should find it spot on, I fitted ricks kit after a bad experience with a suspension place that apprantly rebuilt and uprated the forks to suit me on another 35 i had. They were shite compared to ricks kit no matter how much i adjusted them.

Excellent, looks like he'll be getting an email shortly, although I did like the sound of sending them to someone who could set them up for my weight, the roads I ride etc.

Any suggestions for the other end?

All a suspension pro will do is set the forks up to the info you supply them, with a bit of research you can dial it in yourself. Either that or once you've fitted your new suspension take it to a specialist or decent bike shop and get them to set the bike up, they charge around £50 and is money well spent if you ask me.

As for the rear, how deep are your pockets? late type nc30 shocks can be rebuilt, RS250 and K6/7 GSXR shocks fit with a little work. And then you've got the likes of maxton, WP, ohlins etc

The thing is, when I'm riding the bike I would never think "oh, I wish the suspension wouldn't do that". I'm just taken in by the way everyone recommends it as being a big improvement.

joshmolloy wrote:The thing is, when I'm riding the bike I would never think "oh, I wish the suspension wouldn't do that". I'm just taken in by the way everyone recommends it as being a big improvement.

This is something I find to be a very subjective area.

I notice when my tyres are 2-3 psi below what I have them set at, I know of at least 2 riders who didn't notice they had an almost flat tyre.

It's a combination of things, riding style, current state of suspension, current set-up of suspension.

You need to define what you mean by a 'pro setup'

You have two factors at play.

'Components'

'Set-up'

The componets are fairly straight-forward. Not always as clear-cut as more £ = better but ohlins / branded makes are often better than cheap chinese imports.

'Set-up'

Your suspension is adjustable.. you can adjust, preload, rebound. Not sure if the NC30 forks have damping. But this is where either a 'pro' or if you do a bit of research into it, yourself (I recommend the latter, even if you do have somone experienced set them up so you familairse yourself with the suspension) adjust the various factors so the bike rides as you'd expect.

Back to the original point.

Brilliant suspension won't instantly make you valentino rossi.

It might inspire more confidnece on the bike which leads to better riding.
It might remove the limitations you had (especially if your riding the bike to its limits)
You may not notice anything.

It all depends on the rider.. many riders, i'd say more-so road riders as opposed to track day junkies who turn up to meets with their side-walls melting, never use anywhere close the full capacity of their bike so suspension won't necessairly make 1000% improvement.

Get somebody knowledable to evaulate how well your current suspension is performing and get it set-up to yourself before persuing a new setup.

Generally i'd say suspension upgrades are never a bad thing.. the bike will always handle better.. and if it's there you can use it :)

Just don't get your hopes up too much.. (I think the average mainly road ride will deffiantly notice the improvement over stock!)

isn't there a standard set-up or a base line to go from?

Something about 10mm of static sag at the rear and 5-7mm of sag at the front or am I just confusing things now?!

Smev

Smev wrote:isn't there a standard set-up or a base line to go from?

Something about 10mm of static sag at the rear and 5-7mm of sag at the front or am I just confusing things now?!

Smev

I have my suspension set as suggested in the Rick O guide.