how do you check valves when you are running total loss
Forum rules
Please can you post items for sale or wanted in the correct For Sale section. Items / bikes for sale here will be removed without warning. Reasons for this are in the FAQ. Thanks
Please can you post items for sale or wanted in the correct For Sale section. Items / bikes for sale here will be removed without warning. Reasons for this are in the FAQ. Thanks
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 55
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:16 pm
- Bike owned: NC 30, gsxr slingshot, benelli
- Location: Stourbridge, west mids, UK
how do you check valves when you are running total loss
HI there
I am currently rebuilding my nc23 engine after an off at anglesey which resulted in a broken selector barrel. I have fitted the new part no probs, just before putting crank cases together i decided to check crank and rods etc for wear or damage. This is where i forgot it has gear driven cams and not chain driven, as i rotated the crank it popped up out of the upper crank case halves. I managed to jostle it and get it back into position. This is where it dawned on me that it may have skipped a tooth and now be meshing in a different position than it should! which i presume will alter the valve timing relative to the crank. I decided to check valve clearences for peace of mind, but my bike is running total loss and has had the alternator rotor removed, but the rotor has the marks on to determin the position of the crank to enable you to check valve clearences. Will i have to buy a alternator rotor and put it on just so i can check the valve clearences or is there a dodge. I presume this is a common problem when checking valve clearences on total loss race bikes?
I would be grateful for any help given. Oh also does anyone no if an nc29 alternator rotor is same as nc23
cheers Rigs
I am currently rebuilding my nc23 engine after an off at anglesey which resulted in a broken selector barrel. I have fitted the new part no probs, just before putting crank cases together i decided to check crank and rods etc for wear or damage. This is where i forgot it has gear driven cams and not chain driven, as i rotated the crank it popped up out of the upper crank case halves. I managed to jostle it and get it back into position. This is where it dawned on me that it may have skipped a tooth and now be meshing in a different position than it should! which i presume will alter the valve timing relative to the crank. I decided to check valve clearences for peace of mind, but my bike is running total loss and has had the alternator rotor removed, but the rotor has the marks on to determin the position of the crank to enable you to check valve clearences. Will i have to buy a alternator rotor and put it on just so i can check the valve clearences or is there a dodge. I presume this is a common problem when checking valve clearences on total loss race bikes?
I would be grateful for any help given. Oh also does anyone no if an nc29 alternator rotor is same as nc23
cheers Rigs
-
- Site Supporter
- Posts: 350
- Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:52 am
Re: how do you check valves when you are running total loss
We have plenty of used Tri Arm flywheels complete with their locking key and fixing bolt - £15 delivered. Paypal is quickest.
Give me a call daytime sometime and I can guide you how best to proceed.
Give me a call daytime sometime and I can guide you how best to proceed.
Graeme France - GF Racing UK
UK Warehouse 01652 650142
GF Mobile 07778 628448
email: gfracingtw@live.co.uk
http://www.gfracinguk.com
UK Warehouse 01652 650142
GF Mobile 07778 628448
email: gfracingtw@live.co.uk
http://www.gfracinguk.com
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 41
- Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:13 pm
- Bike owned: RG500,NC29,NC23,NC30,GK76A,
- Location: Hampshire
Re: how do you check valves when you are running total loss
Hi
When checking valve clearances,as long as the cam lobe is pionnting away from the valve bucket ie 180 degrees from holding the valve open you can check that valve clearance.So you dont need a flywheel to do cearances.
Hope that helps
When checking valve clearances,as long as the cam lobe is pionnting away from the valve bucket ie 180 degrees from holding the valve open you can check that valve clearance.So you dont need a flywheel to do cearances.
Hope that helps
- Cammo
- Site Supporter
- Posts: 4505
- Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 12:35 am
- Bike owned: NC30
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
Re: how do you check valves when you are running total loss
Yes you can do the valve clearances that way, but the timing can still be out!piston wrote:Hi
When checking valve clearances,as long as the cam lobe is pionnting away from the valve bucket ie 180 degrees from holding the valve open you can check that valve clearance.So you dont need a flywheel to do cearances.
"It's just a ride" Bill Hicks
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 55
- Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:53 am
- Location: Australia
Re: how do you check valves when you are running total loss
to set the cams - take out the spark plug out of cylinder 1. ie the one furthest left (while sitting on the bike) . stick a screwdriver etc down the plug hole, turn the engine over with a socket on the end of the crank bolt until the screwdriver reaches its highest point. this will be TDC which is marked T on the flywheel. refer to the manual about positioning the cams so that the lines face the right way. IN should face to the left and EX should face right when looking from the right hand side of the engine (from memory).
to check valve clearances - as long as the cam lobe is facing away from the bucket, doesn't matter on stroke or anything else.
to check valve clearances - as long as the cam lobe is facing away from the bucket, doesn't matter on stroke or anything else.
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 55
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:16 pm
- Bike owned: NC 30, gsxr slingshot, benelli
- Location: Stourbridge, west mids, UK
Re: how do you check valves when you are running total loss
cheers i ll give it ago.
rigsby
rigsby
-
- Settled in member
- Posts: 41
- Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:13 pm
- Bike owned: RG500,NC29,NC23,NC30,GK76A,
- Location: Hampshire
Re: how do you check valves when you are running total loss
Hi Dude, sorry didnt read the post correctly. I only looked at the title for the post & didnt realise you needed the timing explaining to . Anyway I see you are now sorted out so all good. Thats what happens when you get up early for work & are still half asleep lol.