For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
Thanks for the feedback; please keep it coming. Maybe I should add additional information just to make things clearer.
1. Finish, gloss or matt, not a problem. We just went for the matt for a change for a more 'factory racer' look. It is actually 'finished' in a matt clear coat so the work for us is identical if clear or matt. Seems like everyone likes gloss, so let's lay this one to rest and say it will be gloss finish if we produce it.
2. Tank cover. The full tank is a nice idea, but it is like Gavin says very expensive and also there is the danger aspect too of it splitting in an accident and fuel catching fire etc. (Not allowed carbon tanks in racing for this reason) The cover would be totally optional but the idea is that you can take a totally trashed paint scheme on a bike even dented tank providing it doesn't bulge out and stop the cover fitting. You then slip this cover into position and the job's done. I must admit, it sort of could be described as a bit naff but then again, is it so different to the ones fitted to the Honda CBR RRs? Ok the tank underneath is an exact same shape but the RR tank in some ways worse because it really is really fake tank and we all got used to that idea eventually twenty years after the V Max and 30 years after the Goldwing were launched. (showing my age there!) Think of the cover as being a carbon skin alternative to a skin of paint and it starts to make more sense. It certainly won't add much to the weight of the bike and the only disadvantage is your magnets on your tank bag won't work any more... We are thinking of doing it in glass too. Why? So we can deliver a complete painted bodywork set to a customer without needing to provide tank or the customer getting the tank to match, once we find a reliable paint system because we are not going to deliver crappy paint like that which comes from other places in the East...
3. On the subject of paint, personally, I prefer just highlights of carbon such as number boards etc and we already have a plan in this respect, but I am sure that if we had presented the bodywork already painted we'd be accused of not having complete carbon panels. This way at least you can see the carbon covers the whole piece and is not inlays within that panel.
4. Cost. Well, this is going to be an issue. You can pretty much double and then some, for carbon over glass on big panels because there is quite a lot of waste and quite a lot of risk in making them. Wish I could give an exact price but quantity will affect the price and ultimately viability so all the issues are linked and interdependent which is why we welcome feedback.
5. Carbon repairs. Very tricky. You can cut down the clear coat and resin but as soon as you hit the strands of carbon and there is no warning, the appearance is irrevocably and obviously affected. Best of luck on that one.
1. Finish, gloss or matt, not a problem. We just went for the matt for a change for a more 'factory racer' look. It is actually 'finished' in a matt clear coat so the work for us is identical if clear or matt. Seems like everyone likes gloss, so let's lay this one to rest and say it will be gloss finish if we produce it.
2. Tank cover. The full tank is a nice idea, but it is like Gavin says very expensive and also there is the danger aspect too of it splitting in an accident and fuel catching fire etc. (Not allowed carbon tanks in racing for this reason) The cover would be totally optional but the idea is that you can take a totally trashed paint scheme on a bike even dented tank providing it doesn't bulge out and stop the cover fitting. You then slip this cover into position and the job's done. I must admit, it sort of could be described as a bit naff but then again, is it so different to the ones fitted to the Honda CBR RRs? Ok the tank underneath is an exact same shape but the RR tank in some ways worse because it really is really fake tank and we all got used to that idea eventually twenty years after the V Max and 30 years after the Goldwing were launched. (showing my age there!) Think of the cover as being a carbon skin alternative to a skin of paint and it starts to make more sense. It certainly won't add much to the weight of the bike and the only disadvantage is your magnets on your tank bag won't work any more... We are thinking of doing it in glass too. Why? So we can deliver a complete painted bodywork set to a customer without needing to provide tank or the customer getting the tank to match, once we find a reliable paint system because we are not going to deliver crappy paint like that which comes from other places in the East...
3. On the subject of paint, personally, I prefer just highlights of carbon such as number boards etc and we already have a plan in this respect, but I am sure that if we had presented the bodywork already painted we'd be accused of not having complete carbon panels. This way at least you can see the carbon covers the whole piece and is not inlays within that panel.
4. Cost. Well, this is going to be an issue. You can pretty much double and then some, for carbon over glass on big panels because there is quite a lot of waste and quite a lot of risk in making them. Wish I could give an exact price but quantity will affect the price and ultimately viability so all the issues are linked and interdependent which is why we welcome feedback.
5. Carbon repairs. Very tricky. You can cut down the clear coat and resin but as soon as you hit the strands of carbon and there is no warning, the appearance is irrevocably and obviously affected. Best of luck on that one.
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
I know it's your duty to plug Tyga, but I don't think that my comments warranted that sort of racial hateGavin jap4 wrote:The carbon has been left matt so that it can be painted over if you want to, NOT because some ozzy says they cant be arsed![]()

Good to see Paul came through with some useful info though.
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
Thanks for giving us some more info.
I have brought far to much from Tyga, Full RC211V panels, full exhaust system, carbon front fender, to list but a few.
To start with it was more to do with the price, but now it is far more to do with the fact that your parts are very very well made and at a good price.
I have no idea how well your parts sell, but for me I just cant see the carbon panels selling that well for NC30-NC35 owners. If it was for the Ducati range I would say go full guns blazing as they love the carbon and tend to throw massive amounts of money at there bikes.
I for one don't think that this is the case with the Honda people, yes there are a lot of us out there that spend far to much money on these lovely bikes but I cant think that these carbon panels are going to come in much under the £1000 mark for the lot, then if you add paint to the equation as well that is more than a lot of people can sell there bikes for, unlike a Ducati 998.
Again this is just my thoughts on the matter, I kind of hope that you do make them because the more parts out there for these bikes just makes them even better.
But can I ask that you bring out some more trick bits for the NC30 ? I love the CNC Top Triple Clamp that you guys do for the NSR250, can you make me one please ?
Oh and like I said before I will buy a carbon single seat unit for the NC30 please.
Ta Matty.
I have brought far to much from Tyga, Full RC211V panels, full exhaust system, carbon front fender, to list but a few.
To start with it was more to do with the price, but now it is far more to do with the fact that your parts are very very well made and at a good price.
I have no idea how well your parts sell, but for me I just cant see the carbon panels selling that well for NC30-NC35 owners. If it was for the Ducati range I would say go full guns blazing as they love the carbon and tend to throw massive amounts of money at there bikes.
I for one don't think that this is the case with the Honda people, yes there are a lot of us out there that spend far to much money on these lovely bikes but I cant think that these carbon panels are going to come in much under the £1000 mark for the lot, then if you add paint to the equation as well that is more than a lot of people can sell there bikes for, unlike a Ducati 998.
Again this is just my thoughts on the matter, I kind of hope that you do make them because the more parts out there for these bikes just makes them even better.
But can I ask that you bring out some more trick bits for the NC30 ? I love the CNC Top Triple Clamp that you guys do for the NSR250, can you make me one please ?
Oh and like I said before I will buy a carbon single seat unit for the NC30 please.
Ta Matty.
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
The fueltank cover will be excellent if you want to do a lightweight but not nicely finished alu fuel tank (cheep) to go under it.
Hmm, might just do that...
Hmm, might just do that...
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
superlite wrote:I know it's your duty to plug Tyga, but I don't think that my comments warranted that sort of racial hateGavin jap4 wrote:The carbon has been left matt so that it can be painted over if you want to, NOT because some ozzy says they cant be arsed![]()
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Good to see Paul came through with some useful info though.
LOL Im the least non PC person in the world as I think it has been taken way to far.
I do believe though that your comment of they could not be arsed to finish it was way out of order to be honest and I will stand up for TYGA on these kind of things as I dont believe them to be a fair constructive comment. TYGA do not do anything by halfs unlike alot of other companies out there and produce products for old bikes that no one else will produce. So please keep the comments constructive or you could end up losing a company that supports old bikes with quality products.
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
I think the word you were looking for was 'most'? Political correctness gone mad and all that [Yawn].Gavin jap4 wrote:LOL Im the least non PC person in the world as I think it has been taken way to far.
I won't dwell on the rest of your spelling and grammar though, as I understand that it can be hard for some.
I'm just glad we've got our own Tyga dealer in Australia (Ozz) that knows his stuff!
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
yes you are correct that is what I should have put but as Im very busy with orders Im always in a rsh to reply on heresuperlite wrote:I think the word you were looking for was 'most'? Political correctness gone mad and all that [Yawn].Gavin jap4 wrote:LOL Im the least non PC person in the world as I think it has been taken way to far.
I won't dwell on the rest of your spelling and grammar though, as I understand that it can be hard for some.
I'm just glad we've got our own Tyga dealer in Australia (Ozz) that knows his stuff!
When it comes to grammer I do not really care to be honest as I do not have any use for it in every day use.
I dont believe you have a official Ozz dealer anymore due to him not being very good. Obviously he did not know his stuff aswell as you think.
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
Ok lads can we please not turn this very interesting thread in to a silly slanging match please.
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
might just be me but i really like the matt look i think it would look awesome on my race bike, as for the tank cover i think thats cool too, plus it helps protect the tank in a crash.
For me though i think sheer cost would be too much for a club racer like myself
Si :D
For me though i think sheer cost would be too much for a club racer like myself
Si :D
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Re: For the carbon loving NC35 crowd.
Hmmm, interesting. Hopefully a set might be available for a '30 one day. I'd think about replacing my panels but keeping the paintwork the same.