neutral issues

[shaun2k]

hi peeps

i have an issue

the bike ive been building will not go into neutral....it did....and the strange thing is it did only a week ago and prior to that also fine.

it goes into neutral or what feels like neutral, but no light, and when i roll foward it clicks out again, this is lame, how without being ridden, dropped, whatever, can it do this??????? it was working fine, now its not.

yes that means i cant start this crappy bike at all even with the clutch in...how stupid is that!!!!

ive tried tonight for at least 20 mins and no sign of even a flicker of the green light....sigh...logic says that its impossible for things to have effect without cause...so how can one week of sitting in my shed stop the retarded neutral from working...how!!!!

this is a major setback as ive got to finish this thing for 4 days time as its been done for a friend, and he's going to brussles for a stag do so what am i to do, the clutch feels a bit heravy but fine and i can feel it moving in there, it goes in all gears fine, but no neutral....ive just about had enough of this bike..after all my efforts, selling at a loss now im dicked by this..

if anybody knows anything that could help me please reply sharpish, i'd be very greatfull

[mick.mh2racing]

Possibly your bike is in neutral and the light sensor is shagged. Try to get your bike into what you think is neutral, and if your bike rear wheel will turn you can reasonably assume that your sensor isn't sensing.
The sender unit is fairly small on the offside of the bike, on an NC30 and the wire might have snapped, it's just a bullet connector.
Has your bike got a side stand switch? In that will it not start when your bike is in gear? You don't say what bike you've got. If your bike has a side stand switch then they're dead easy to over ride. Basically just remove and join the wires together to close the open circuit.
I know NC30s can be a bit quirky to get a neutral, try blipping the throtle or engaging neutral just as you come to a stop.

[skinnydog0_0]

Not sure about the actual popping out of neutral, but my neutral light wire and connector can be very tempramental sometimes it works sometimes not, but i can get it started with the clutch in. I use loads of WD40 on the wire and that usually sorts it. is the battery charged?
Any fueses blown?

[shaun2k]

thanks guys, i have an nc30 by the way :)

another 20 mins later and its refusing to go in, its like its halfway between neutral and gear, when it clicks into what i'd class as neutral. but when i roll the bike foward it just clicks into gear, as for the light, it works i just tested the circuit, i'm very concerned that i cant start the bike.

if its in gear and the clutch is in, can it still start ? mine does not, yet i have power to the bike as all lights work, sensors seem to work. yet if it did go into neutral it would fire up so nice.

i would say its internal, but to be honest, its not been ridden and only started like 3 times, went into neutral fine last 3 times, ive checked the cable, clutch, and lever, seem fine, has good resistence....sigh...why now

[skinnydog0_0]

Possibly your bike is in neutral and the light sensor is shagged. Try to get your bike into what you think is neutral, and if your bike rear wheel will turn you can reasonably assume that your sensor isn't sensing.
The sender unit is fairly small on the offside of the bike, on an NC30 and the wire might have snapped, it's just a bullet connector.
Has your bike got a side stand switch? In that will it not start when your bike is in gear? You don't say what bike you've got. If your bike has a side stand switch then they're dead easy to over ride. Basically just remove and join the wires together to close the open circuit.
I know NC30s can be a bit quirky to get a neutral, try blipping the throtle or engaging neutral just as you come to a stop.

I would agree with the side stand switch being faulty if the other points check out okay.
My bike is a 35, and i dont have a sidestand switch, took it off.
Is the neutral light on then, but just not going into gear?

[Cammo]

The nc30 doesn't have a sidestand switch.

[Hadies]

I had a similar issue yesterday with the same symptoms. Take out your neutral switch wire and give it a clean and pop it back it. It worked for me! Its on the right hand side of the bike, towards the back of the engine and its quite a small wire.
Is it firing off the button or are you getting nothing at all?
Good luck

[NGneer]

Shaun

Even if you are not in neutral you should be able to start the bike with the clutch pulled in.

Getting into neutral can be a bit tricky on the NC30 and is often helped with a blip of the throtle as you do it. Having said that (and as you cannot get the bike started) this is not great advice at the moment

Check you have not left the kill switch in the "Off" position (come on - who hasn't wasted and hour or two only to find that one)

Are you getting any kick of life to the starter motor when you press the button?

If not, i would give the starter button a good clean out and liberal aplication of WD40, secondly i would check the main fuse.

Solve the bike starting and then see how the neutral issue is.

Good luck

[Hadies]

There was no life from my starter motor when I pressed the button. Literally nothing happened regardless of the clutch. And it was because of the neutral light switch being a bit dirty. Check it out and let us know!

[Neosophist]

There was no life from my starter motor when I pressed the button. Literally nothing happened regardless of the clutch. And it was because of the neutral light switch being a bit dirty. Check it out and let us know!

Sounds like your clutch switch is buggard / disconnected then.

Should work with clutch pulled in...

As an 'acid' test..

Now your bike is fixed, put it into first and turn it off.. see if you can start the engine with the clutch in and the bike in first.