Project A&E / OCD
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Project A&E / OCD
Well guys i think this one deserves a dedicated post of it's own - it is actually based on a totally different bike.
So take one New old stock 2007 Honda CR250 and throw a shit load of money at it (even after the initial heavy purchase price) get it fully road legal and registered, convert to a supermoto and tune for around low 50's bhp and enjoy and thrash on local roads and the smaller trackdays.
Budget - £sub 10k ideally ha ha ha
So there is the brief, here it all comes
So take one New old stock 2007 Honda CR250 and throw a shit load of money at it (even after the initial heavy purchase price) get it fully road legal and registered, convert to a supermoto and tune for around low 50's bhp and enjoy and thrash on local roads and the smaller trackdays.
Budget - £sub 10k ideally ha ha ha
So there is the brief, here it all comes
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So as you can see, i managed to source a pretty well unused example which was the last of the CR250 2 strokes. Imported from the USA when new, then used once on a tarmac drive by the original owner so total running time = 10 mins !!
Sold to a guy in the north east who used it as a show pony for all the parts they made for CR's and from there it was used as a display model for a couple of shows on the Honda stands, then dismantled and stored in a spare bedroom - until i bought it.
The price was substantial (more than they were new, comparable with a new CRF250X in todays money) but this really is the last chance i would ever find a unused CR250 so i had to have it.
Pics of the bike as it was earlier today / this evening.
Sold to a guy in the north east who used it as a show pony for all the parts they made for CR's and from there it was used as a display model for a couple of shows on the Honda stands, then dismantled and stored in a spare bedroom - until i bought it.
The price was substantial (more than they were new, comparable with a new CRF250X in todays money) but this really is the last chance i would ever find a unused CR250 so i had to have it.
Pics of the bike as it was earlier today / this evening.
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So where do we start ? well first things first, here it is right now. as purchased, couple of none standard stickers, aftermarket powervavle cover and case saver and a full DEP system. note the chain missing - i stole it to fit on my other 07 CR250 to sell the bike.
So strip off all the new original plastics and store away in the loft then soak the thing in ACF50 and leave for 24h to soak in and run everywhere
Enjoy everyone this is possibly the only time you will see a CR250 that's new and stripped down naked (15 mins work - i love the simplicity and quality of these)
So strip off all the new original plastics and store away in the loft then soak the thing in ACF50 and leave for 24h to soak in and run everywhere
Enjoy everyone this is possibly the only time you will see a CR250 that's new and stripped down naked (15 mins work - i love the simplicity and quality of these)
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So while that is soaking in it gives me time to compile the shopping list.
1 - Talon gold hub and gold rim Supermoto wheels £1150 - Purchased
2 - Talon large supermoto disk and caliper adapter £250 - Purchased
3 - Aftermarket OE plastics kit £90 - Purchased
4 - JB Racing custom ECU £300 - Purchased
5 - 14/38 gearing and chain £90 - Purchased
6 - Supermoto front mudguard £25 - Purchased
7 - Enduro rear fender with brakelight LED and number plate holder £40 - Purchased
8 - Aim Mychron5 GPS Dash with water temp sensor and EGT sensor £400+ - Ouch
Now for the really juicy custom stuff
1 - Custom exhaust made specifically for trackdays and to get the gas out at top speed and revs. standard pipes are not really suited to being held flat out for any time so a custom pipe is essential. This will be a nice fat item and routed under the bike so an under slung pipe £500 - Commissioned to be built
2 - Ok now running 14/38 and 17" wheels means a real top speed of around 99mph. The problem is it gets there almost instantly as such is flat out far too long. I need custom primary gears to gear for a projected 120mph, then i can go up on the final gearing to suit tracks. sadly this is very much custom prototype work and not cheap £500+ - Commissioned to be made
3 - custom 6 speed box, this is very much a last resort option but the standard 5 speed box can be replaced with a 60 speed item for around £2000
There will be a few other bits to buy, things like fork sliders and bash plates and some other bling and bits and bobs as the project goes along.
Thing is, this is a pretty easy project in terms of bolting stuff on, the custom fabrication is something else.
1 - Talon gold hub and gold rim Supermoto wheels £1150 - Purchased
2 - Talon large supermoto disk and caliper adapter £250 - Purchased
3 - Aftermarket OE plastics kit £90 - Purchased
4 - JB Racing custom ECU £300 - Purchased
5 - 14/38 gearing and chain £90 - Purchased
6 - Supermoto front mudguard £25 - Purchased
7 - Enduro rear fender with brakelight LED and number plate holder £40 - Purchased
8 - Aim Mychron5 GPS Dash with water temp sensor and EGT sensor £400+ - Ouch
Now for the really juicy custom stuff
1 - Custom exhaust made specifically for trackdays and to get the gas out at top speed and revs. standard pipes are not really suited to being held flat out for any time so a custom pipe is essential. This will be a nice fat item and routed under the bike so an under slung pipe £500 - Commissioned to be built
2 - Ok now running 14/38 and 17" wheels means a real top speed of around 99mph. The problem is it gets there almost instantly as such is flat out far too long. I need custom primary gears to gear for a projected 120mph, then i can go up on the final gearing to suit tracks. sadly this is very much custom prototype work and not cheap £500+ - Commissioned to be made
3 - custom 6 speed box, this is very much a last resort option but the standard 5 speed box can be replaced with a 60 speed item for around £2000
There will be a few other bits to buy, things like fork sliders and bash plates and some other bling and bits and bobs as the project goes along.
Thing is, this is a pretty easy project in terms of bolting stuff on, the custom fabrication is something else.
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Road registration
Well the first hurdle has been passed, i registered the chassis on the HMRC NOVA system, and instantly got the NOVA number back - woo hoo, so this shows there is no duty owing on the bike and i can now start with getting an MOT on it, insure it and then apply for a date related registration number (56 plate)
Well the first hurdle has been passed, i registered the chassis on the HMRC NOVA system, and instantly got the NOVA number back - woo hoo, so this shows there is no duty owing on the bike and i can now start with getting an MOT on it, insure it and then apply for a date related registration number (56 plate)
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If your going to do it, over do it. I like your thinking Paul !
It's not having what you want but wanting what you've got....Loud ,Proud and Modified ....
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Looking forward to seeing you disappear into the distance on this beast.
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ha ha, hardly, after riding this and the CRM almost back to back, the CR is far more back to basics and rough and ready, it also packs a fair old punch exiting corners on grunt and this is where the CRM would be left behind. So for example, lets say at Cadwell, exiting the second right hand turn before the long start finish straight, the CRM would be in third and on the gas and reach 90 say under the bridge, the CR would be in 3rd too but power out of the corner far harder, and would be in top doing near 100 flat out over the line long before the bridge.
Handling and cornering and braking is about the same, the CRM being softer is possibly a bit more predictable and confidence inspiring, but the sub 100 kilos of the CR is just insane for quick left to right turns, the mountain is going to be a bit lairy on that thing as will the next twisty bit.
Handling and cornering and braking is about the same, the CRM being softer is possibly a bit more predictable and confidence inspiring, but the sub 100 kilos of the CR is just insane for quick left to right turns, the mountain is going to be a bit lairy on that thing as will the next twisty bit.
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We're not going to see which way you went. You'll have the advantage everywhere except at the end of the long straights.
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Re: Project A&E / OCD
This is awesome, thats all